Scott Mason and I had a lively discussion on my commitment to my purpose — maximizing organizational success by ensuring civil internal cultures. We had an intense discussion about: how I had to work through my own biases, limiting beliefs, and reactions to workplace abuse before I had the true inner fire to stand up for others. We discussed how organizations can deal with trauma after a bully leaves — and whether a workplace can ever be TOO civil. Also, we talked about why every organizational leader can benefit from self-improvement work, and the surprising ways that work can elevate the workplace to a whole new level.